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luh_windan
10-19-2004, 03:48 PM
Very interesting

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=ac949329-9cdd-44c6-

Canadian Press

Friday, October 15, 2004

QUEBEC - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper is proposing to make Canada more like Belgium, saying he would like a future Conservative government to give some federal authority to linguistic communities.

In a speech to party supporters in Quebec City on Friday, Harper suggested the communities could have some jurisdiction over some areas of communications and broadcasting.

"In Belgium, for example, federal authority is shared not only by geographical regions, but also according to linguistic communities,'' Harper said.

"Instead of giving more authority to provinces in areas like culture or international relations, the federal government could, in concert with the provinces and especially Quebec, establish francophone and anglophone community institutions in areas of jurisdiction like telecommunications and broadcasting.''

Harper declined to take questions after his speech, leaving unclear how much power the community groups would hold or how they would fit in Confederation.

It was also left unclear whether his proposal would give linguistic communities more control over institutions such as the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. and the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission.

His Quebec lieutenant, Josee Verner, also declined to take questions.

"It's phase 1 of an idea and it's going to be explored at a later date,'' said Dimitri Soudas, Harper's spokesman.

CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
10-19-2004, 04:06 PM
That model doesn't work at all. Take it from the only resident in belgium present in this forum. I could go on an hourlong rant as to why it sucks and how much money gets burned, but I'm at work now. It just sucks ass, I'll keep it at that.

otto_von_bismarck
10-19-2004, 08:39 PM
Minorities who don't speak the native language tend to be the most fucking trouble. Giving them "rights" is retarded.

FadeTheButcher
10-19-2004, 10:20 PM
Minorities who don't speak the native language tend to be the most fucking trouble. Giving them "rights" is retarded.Appeasement does not work.

CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
10-20-2004, 09:10 AM
This is not an issue which should be seen in such terms. Both of the linguistic groups have legitimate claims. This is what you get when you merge different nations. In such cases, the minorities don't need to adapt, they should seccede. The Québeqois aren't intruders on anglo soil, they're a separate nation which formed at the same moment as the englishspeaking canadian nation and which somehow got merged with it.

otto_von_bismarck
10-20-2004, 05:06 PM
The Québeqois aren't intruders on anglo soil

Thats exactly what those frogs are.

SteamshipTime
10-20-2004, 05:23 PM
The Québeqois aren't intruders on anglo soil

Thats exactly what those frogs are.

No they're not. They conquered the Injuns fair and square.

otto_von_bismarck
10-20-2004, 05:26 PM
LOL. They are still Frogs profaning our soil... but they should come after the Mestizos.

Edana
10-20-2004, 06:34 PM
The Québeqois aren't intruders on anglo soil

Thats exactly what those frogs are.

No, they aren't. And they aren't "frogs". They are French.

otto_von_bismarck
10-20-2004, 06:37 PM
No, they aren't. And they aren't "frogs". They are French.


I don't have to like the French, they've been a worthless country since Napolean's defeat and doubly so since De Gaulle. You've called French Canadians "the jews of Canada" in the past.

Edana
10-20-2004, 06:41 PM
My opinion of French Canadian PC whining regarding incidents about hockey statements are irrelevent, since you don't even live in Canada.

The fact is that you despise a nation just because you have a low opinion of their military, even though they have done nothing to you, but you adore a nation that has subverted your own for the worse.

I find that attitude disgusting, personally. This is especially ironic considering that you accuse women of being led by emotion and of being "irrational."

otto_von_bismarck
10-20-2004, 07:11 PM
The fact is that you despise a nation just because you have a low opinion of their military

I don't hate Italy and not only do they have a bad military record but the Catholic Church is HQed there. So obviously its not just their military.

France is Sweden-lite and loony to boot. Despite having a proportional representation system and an immigration situation throughout half their country as bad as LA most of the white people are open borders liberal socialist and vote as such. If the US had a proportional representation system there'd be a 5 year moratorium on all immigration right now( one of the few situtations where outright mob rule would improve things).

Its not only their performance in WWII but the delusion that they won the war themselves(yes) and the way the idiot De Gaulle aligned the country with the 3rd world( behind a lot of our problems) to build a counterweight to "Anglo Supremacy" out of spite because he was not treated as a true head of state( which he wasn't) by "The Big 3" and how the French went along with it. Their intellectual class blames "the perfidious albion"( the Anglos) for all the ills of the world even though we rebuilt their country and pay for its defense essentially to this day so their workers can go on strike if they are asked to work more then 3 hours a week.

I could go on.

Edana
10-20-2004, 07:18 PM
France is Sweden-lite and loony to boot. Despite having a proportional representation system and an immigration situation throughout half their country as bad as LA most of the white people are open borders liberal socialist and vote as such. If the US had a proportional representation system there'd be a 5 year moratorium on all immigration right now( one of the few situtations where outright mob rule would improve things).

Which is why everyone was terrified, including the nation you adore, about Le Pen's rise and the National Front.

Its not only their performance in WWII but the delusion that they won the war themselves(yes) and the way the idiot De Gaulle aligned the country with the 3rd world( behind a lot of our problems) to build a counterweight to "Anglo Supremacy" out of spite because he was not treated as a true head of state( which he wasn't) by "The Big 3" and how the French went along with it. Their intellectual class blames "the perfidious albion"( the Anglos) for all the ills of the world even though we rebuilt their country and pay for its defense essentially to this day so their workers can go on strike if they are asked to work more then 3 hours a week.

I could go on.

You could not go on. You have an extremely weak case. You complain about their intellectual class, which has not affected you, and adore the nation that has a powerful intellectual class that openly admits to subverting your own nation for the worse. Since you have an emotional need to blind yourself to this because of personal relations, you prefer to shift your animosity to a "safe target" that has not done anything to you. That is weak, weak, weak.

Edana
10-20-2004, 07:28 PM
Basically, it is obvious that you chose to endulge in an animosity, and then dug back to desperately find ways to back it up afterwards. You are not reacting to anything the French did to you or threaten to do to you.

otto_von_bismarck
10-20-2004, 07:35 PM
Basically, it is obvious that you chose to endulge in an animosity, and then dug back to desperately find ways to back it up afterwards. You are not reacting to anything the French did to you or threaten to do to you.

This is like the kind of wild psychoanalysis tic would engage in( yeah yeah I did it with MOG but I turned out to be right). Not something I would expect of a friend...

SteamshipTime
10-20-2004, 07:45 PM
Basically, it is obvious that you chose to endulge in an animosity, and then dug back to desperately find ways to back it up afterwards. You are not reacting to anything the French did to you or threaten to do to you.

This is like the kind of wild psychoanalysis tic would engage in( yeah yeah I did it with MOG but I turned out to be right). Not something I would expect of a friend...

She's not engaged in "wild psychoanalysis." She's just deconstructing your typically emotive, shallow position. Plenty of other people have pointed out that you are umbilical, not intellectual.

otto_von_bismarck
10-20-2004, 07:51 PM
umbilical, not intellectual

Im at the center of the abdomen?

luh_windan
10-20-2004, 07:54 PM
Indeed the Quebecois are not invaders, but a conquered people. They have always been recognised as a distinct European people with rights to maintain French identity, but the region constitutes an integral portion of British North America which we have a vested interest in keeping a hold on. I'm not exactly sure what the appropriate solution is... I've supported partition in the past, but that's not seeming too practical upon further analysis.

SteamshipTime
10-20-2004, 07:55 PM
umbilical, not intellectual

Im at the center of the abdomen?

You go with your gut, not your brain. Basically, you're as reactive as a female.

Edana
10-20-2004, 07:56 PM
Otto, it is not "wild." It is blatant and obvious to anyone who has known you for a while. If a close RL friend or relative of mine decided that they would hate "the British" or "the Spanish" and then proceeded to dig back into history to justify this hate, I would give them the exact same response.

Do I give you this response about Islam? No, because a strong case can be made that Islam is dangerous, even if we disagree on how to deal with this danger.

The French do nothing to you and do not threaten you. Yet, you choose to hate them and call them "frogs" while adoring a nation that has openly subverted your own and still does so regularly.

One could go into history and find reasons to hate any European nation. It reminds me of those loathesome Jewish and Jewish-influenced "conservatives" who throw up bile regularly about the French and Europe. European nations as a whole are not my enemies.

otto_von_bismarck
10-20-2004, 08:01 PM
You go with your gut, not your brain. Basically, you're as reactive as a female.

I go with my gut when I don't have all the facts.

SteamshipTime
10-20-2004, 08:07 PM
I go with my gut when I don't have all the facts.

You go with your gut, then proceed to track down various half-truths and cobble them together to support your initial reaction.

otto_von_bismarck
10-20-2004, 08:50 PM
You go with your gut, then proceed to track down various half-truths and cobble them together to support your initial reaction.


So doesn't everyone, most people don't go so far as to cobble any evidence together.

Ive yet to hear a defense for the French other then "Viva Le Pen, viva l'avant national". Edana has complained about the French and Eastern Canada in general in the past.

Edana
10-20-2004, 09:04 PM
Listen, I complained about both Eastern Anglos and French Canadians as a momentary reaction based on some insignificant present issue and the fact that I now live in Canada so I hear about Canadian issues. I do not hate "frogs" as a group because I got annoyed at temporary PC whining.

You do not live in Canada and the French do not need a "defense".

They have not done anything to you or threaten you in any way that warrants a need for defense. If you are interested in "defenses", maybe you should construct another flimsy defense for that nation you keep excusing, the one who openly subverts your own while regularly spewing bile at the French and Europe.

Edana
10-20-2004, 09:57 PM
On to another point, since French Canadians are on the topic.

I would much rather have the government subverted in the interests of "frogs" than for the government and society to be subverted to put Jewish ethnic interests (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20041020/ZUNDEL20/TPNational/TopStories) at the forefront.

otto_von_bismarck
10-21-2004, 05:50 AM
I would much rather have the government subverted in the interests of "frogs" than for the government and society to be subverted to put Jewish ethnic interests at the forefront.


Are you sure. The French Canadians unless assimilated to "Anglo" culture aren't going anywhere while in a couple of generations intermarriage and low birth rates will make the jews all but extinct( except perhaps the ultra orthodox types).

The jews even if they hate gentiles as much as believed also do not direct their main hatred at "Anglos" the way the French do either nor even if they linger on will they be nearly as numerous.

SteamshipTime
10-21-2004, 12:40 PM
The jews even if they hate gentiles as much as believed also do not direct their main hatred at "Anglos" the way the French do either nor even if they linger on will they be nearly as numerous.

Like hell they don't. On the contrary, the Jews have been pissed off at Anglos ever since they got off the boats. If you took off your Jew-colored glasses and actually read what is posted here you wouldn't make such silly statements.

Edana
10-21-2004, 02:36 PM
Are you sure. The French Canadians unless assimilated to "Anglo" culture aren't going anywhere while in a couple of generations intermarriage and low birth rates will make the jews all but extinct( except perhaps the ultra orthodox types).

I don't care if they aren't going anywhere. Good for them.

You know why I don't care? Because anything from them that annoys me is only a direct result of the current political system and society trends. If they ever start harming the nation to 1/10th the level that your pet nation does, just let them secede. :D

Your pet nation has openly subverted numerous nations for the worse and have an influence which is far more insidious.

The jews even if they hate gentiles as much as believed also do not direct their main hatred at "Anglos" the way the French do either nor even if they linger on will they be nearly as numerous.

As ST already said, this statement is BS and can only come from someone who has willfully chosen to blind himself. You readily latch on to any flimsy historical reason to hate "frogs", yet constantly try to wave away or downplay the overwhelming evidence that Jews are a destructive influence.

otto_von_bismarck
10-21-2004, 02:58 PM
I don't care if they aren't going anywhere. Good for them.

Just because they are white doesn't mean they don't hate you, every other European group "Angloized" but the French Canucks. A group that remains "seperatist"( especially to the point of wanting a "language police" to enforce the use of their minority tongue) over generations does it by choice.

You know why I don't care? Because anything from them that annoys me is only a direct result of the current political system and society trends.

You could say the same about almost any other group( except the jihadi who would just become more violent if they couldn't form a social democratic lobby or voting bloc).

Your pet nation has openly subverted numerous nations for the worse and have an influence which is far more insidious.

Lets just say neither of us are exactly impartial on this topic and drop it.

If they ever start harming the nation to 1/10th the level that your pet nation does, just let them secede.

Well unfortunately it would be very bad for where I live to have them in control of the Niagra Falls power station. Of course the one major thing I do like about France is they use nuclear power so that might work out... you do know the minute they seperate from Canada the US government will start plotting annexation of "Anglo" Canada. But secession is rarely a peaceful and orderly affair even if there is good faith on both sides initially.

Edana
10-21-2004, 03:41 PM
Just because they are white doesn't mean they don't hate you, every other European group "Angloized" but the French Canucks. A group that remains "seperatist"( especially to the point of wanting a "language police" to enforce the use of their minority tongue) over generations does it by choice.

I don't care if they hate me. They are on the other side of the continent, whereas Jews do annoying things that have an effect right here in my province.

Lets just say neither of us are exactly impartial on this topic and drop it.

In other words - YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH!! :222


Again, Weikel chooses to inflate minor issues and dig into history to justify his hatred of "frogs", while waving away, minimizing, or wanting to "drop the subject" when the fact that there is overwhelming evidence of destructive Jewish influence is brought up.

Have fun with your little Office of Anti-Semitism in the US.

CONSTANTINVS MAXIMVS
10-21-2004, 03:44 PM
How the hell does a thread about federalism manage to end up about jews?

Edana
10-21-2004, 03:47 PM
Kikel chose to go on a "frog"-bashing parade and I am trying to deal with his hypocrisy in hopes that he'll eventually reconsider his POV.

otto_von_bismarck
10-21-2004, 03:49 PM
In other words - YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

I just don't want to run my hand through a pile of goo that a minute ago was my best friends face...


Again, Weikel chooses to inflate minor issues and dig into history to justify his hatred of "frogs", while waving away, minimizing, or wanting to "drop the subject" when the fact that there is overwhelming evidence of destructive Jewish influence is brought up.

I want to drop the subject because all its doing is stirring up animosity while neither of us will ever be convinced of the others position.

If you think without jews liberalism and all the other shit you hate politically would go away, I have a bridge in Stockholm( and quite a few other European countries) to sell you.

FadeTheButcher
10-21-2004, 03:50 PM
The Québeqois aren't intruders on anglo soil, they're a separate nation which formed at the same moment as the englishspeaking canadian nation and which somehow got merged with it.You wouldn't see me shedding any tears if they were to secede from Canada. Good riddance. If anything, secession of Quebec would precipitate the demise of multiculturalism in Canada. Such an event would also be a huge blow to the multiculturalists in the United States as well. Dissolution of Canada itself would have aftershocks in Europe as well. If the remainder of Canada developed a closer relationship with Britain, then its gravity would almost certainly pull Britain further away from Europe. On the other hand, if Anglo Canada joined the Union, then the entire political balance of power in the U.S. would be upset.

Edana
10-21-2004, 03:56 PM
I just don't want to run my hand through a pile of goo that a minute ago was my best friends face.

LoL, so if you admit that Jews have been a far more subversive influence in your nation than "frogs", then your best friend's face will turn into a pile of goo. Am I getting this correctly?

I want to drop the subject because all its doing is stirring up animosity while neither of us will ever be convinced of the others position.

Your position is a complete denial of reality because of some personal friendship.

If you think without jews liberalism and all the other shit you hate politically would go away, I have a bridge in Stockholm( and quite a few other European countries) to sell you.

Did I ever say that liberalism would disappear without Jews? No, I haven't.

I have, however, stated the obvious reality that Jews have been a far more destructive influence on your nation than "frogs." In light of this, your choice to constantly go "frog"-bashing looks silly and childish.

otto_von_bismarck
10-21-2004, 03:56 PM
You wouldn't see me shedding any tears if they were to secede from Canada. Good riddance. If anything, secession of Quebec would precipitate the demise of multiculturalism in Canada. Such an event would also be a huge blow to the multiculturalists in the United States as well. It dissolution of Canada itself would have aftershocks in Europe as well. If the remainder of Canada developed a closer relationship with Britain, then its gravity would almost certainly pull Britain further away from Europe. On the other hand, if Anglo Canada joined the Union, then the entire political balance of power in the U.S. would be upset

Secessions tend to have unforseen and generally negative consequences.

I tend to think the US gov would be scheming incessently for an "Anchluss" of Anglo Canada.

It would put the leadership of the American right, such genunine elements that remain, in an akward position. Either support the addition of some new liberal senators, or be accused of being unpatriotic by American liberals( yes) for standing in the way of a greater America.

That would also push America away from Britain and therefore push Britain closer to the European Union, as the British would not be happy about American designs on whats technically a British dominion.

robinder
10-21-2004, 03:58 PM
In other words - YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

I just don't want to run my hand through a pile of goo that a minute ago was my best friends face...





Charlie don't surf.

Edana
10-21-2004, 04:00 PM
You wouldn't see me shedding any tears if they were to secede from Canada. Good riddance. If anything, secession of Quebec would precipitate the demise of multiculturalism in Canada. Such an event would also be a huge blow to the multiculturalists in the United States as well. Dissolution of Canada itself would have aftershocks in Europe as well. If the remainder of Canada developed a closer relationship with Britain, then its gravity would almost certainly pull Britain further away from Europe. On the other hand, if Anglo Canada joined the Union, then the entire political balance of power in the U.S. would be upset.

The fragile French-Anglo union in Canada only creates unneeded animosity. I support their secession because that would mean more power would shift towards the West.

otto_von_bismarck
10-21-2004, 04:05 PM
LoL, so if you admit that Jews have been a far more subversive influence in your nation than "frogs", then your best friend's face will turn into a pile of goo. Am I getting this correctly?

It was a joke in reference to a Few Good Men.

Your position is a complete denial of reality because of some personal friendship.
Its a denial of pseudo scholarship and borderline kookery I do with more zeal because of personal friendship. I do concede that feminism was pushed by a bunch of pushy jewish dykes and that it at the very least would have arrived at a later date without them.

Did I ever say that liberalism would disappear without Jews? No, I haven't.
If they are not causal they are insignificant. French Canadians are certainly causal to more left wing governmental policies in Canada then jews are.

I have, however, stated the obvious reality that Jews have been a far more destructive influence on your nation than "frogs."
As someone who in hindsight thinks the American revolution and the French one were both mistakes with negative consequences I can't agree. I don't even need to bring WWI and Versailles into it.

SteamshipTime
10-21-2004, 04:15 PM
For some reason weikel adores the centralized state. He says he despises multi-culturalism, but gets nervous about secession. Odd. Maybe he worries that once the secession ball gets rolling, a certain ethnic group will no longer have D.C. to tell people who they can and can't associate with.

Edana
10-21-2004, 04:20 PM
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It was a joke in reference to a Few Good Men.

It still revealed a Truth about your motives.

Its a denial of pseudo scholarship and borderline kookery I do with more zeal because of personal friendship.

So Jewish sources themselves are pseudo scholarship and borderline kookery? Your government just created an Office of Anti-Semitism at the demand of Jewish lobbying, and you still wave away all evidence of subversive Jewish power as "kookery." Speaking of kookery, need I bring up your theory about how Jewish NeoConservatives are only open-borders because they are paid to be so, even though they themselves admit they are open-borders because of their Jewish history and Jewish sources themselves reveal that "Social Equality" and Liberalism is a more important part of their identity as Jews than religious beliefs?

But let's ignore that and bash some "frogs" because their military history isn't up to some standard.

If they are not causal they are insignificant.

This is absolutely wrong, since almost every complex issue has numerous factors. You can't remove one factor and expect everything to fall into place. That does not mean that one factor is insignificant.

Conflict between Canadian French and Anglos can be resolved through political means, such as an end to multi-cultism and more seperation.

As someone who in hindsight thinks the American revolution and the French one were both mistakes with negative consequences I can't agree. I don't even need to bring WWI and Versailles into it.

The American revolution and the French revolution are history. Can you deal with the present, or do you really feel that need to delve into history to justify a hatred that you have chosen to endulge in?

You do not have an Office of Anti-Frenchism in America.

otto_von_bismarck
10-21-2004, 04:40 PM
For some reason weikel adores the centralized state. He says he despises multi-culturalism, but gets nervous about secession. Odd. Maybe he worries that once the secession ball gets rolling, a certain ethnic group will no longer have D.C. to tell people who they can and can't associate with.


I like Confederations, the problem with secession is I don't think a huge # of petty mini states is anything but a recipe for disaster.

otto_von_bismarck
10-21-2004, 05:01 PM
It still revealed a Truth about your motives.

I said my best friend was jewish many years ago on LF.

So Jewish sources themselves are pseudo scholarship and borderline kookery?

Well what do you call Bobby Fischer lately, except hes not borderline...

Im sure a great many jews like the idea of being as powerful as anti semites make them out to be but the simple fact is if they were they wouldn't have been kicked out of so many countries + had their property confiscated so many times in history. They are better at making money then achieving the nessecary political power to protect it from political elements that want to single them out, get rid of them, and of course take their money.

Speaking of kookery, need I bring up your theory about how Jewish NeoConservatives are only open-borders because they are paid to be so.

Its not kookery, as the great HL Mencken said freedom of the press is limited to those who own one. There is no such thing as an independent journalist. Fox News all conservatives, other news stations all liberals. They do as they're told.

Jewish sources themselves reveal that "Social Equality" and Liberalism is a more important part of their identity as Jews than religious beliefs?

They are in general not religious and have a tendency to be foolishly idealistic, this is not of strength of theirs its a weakness.

You do not have an Office of Anti-Frenchism in America.

If you go to Eastern Canada you've got one there though :D. Better make that post in English and French. The State Department doesn't really have much influence on any administration Democrat or Republican. They're hostile to Republicans and with Dems just do as they're told and since the position of national security advisor has existed every Prez has trusted been closer to his national security advisor then his secretary of state.

Edana
10-21-2004, 05:22 PM
I said my best friend was jewish many years ago on LF.

Yes, that is why it has been obvious to many people that you deny reality because it makes you uncomfortable.

Well what do you call Bobby Fischer lately, except hes not borderline.

No one here uses Bobby Fischer as a source. Weak of you.

They are better at making money then achieving the nessecary political power.....

Let me finish that for you correctly. Achieving the necessary political power to advance their own perceived ethnic interests, which are not the same as European gentile interests no matter how many Jewish propagandaists try to make that out to be.

...to protect it from political elements that want to single them out, get rid of them, and of course take their money.

This is incorrect because you have accepted Jewish paranoia as true. Jews use their political power to clamp down on anyone that sparks their paranoia. The JDL here in Alberta sued a guy for mentioning in an article that real estate here is largely controlled by Jews.

First, they use and flaunt their power in ways that instigate negative reactions from people, then they claim persecution when someone even mentions their power.

Its not kookery, as the great HL Mencken said freedom of the press is limited to those who own one. There is no such thing as an independent journalist. Fox News all conservatives, other news stations all liberals. They do as they're told.

It's kookery when you refuse to believe the word of Jews themselves because you would rather believe that their views are secretly close to your own. As a matter of fact, your view actually makes them look worse. I believe they are just advancing what they think to be their own interests. Under your claim, they are lying whores...and you excuse this and accept them. That is weak.

Your excuses are especially weak considering that Jews themselves own a lot of the press. :p

They are in general not religious and have a tendency to be foolishly idealistic, this is not of strength of theirs its a weakness.

So when the French are liberal, you hate them even if they aren't effecting you, but when the Jews are liberal and use their power to advance liberal causes in your own nation, you just think the poor dears are being "idealistic" and "foolish" and excuse them. Weak.

If you go to Eastern Canada you've got one there though

Neither of us live in Eastern Canada. You do not even live in Canada, which is why I think your "frog"-bashing and then using Canadian politics as an excuse for it is pathetic.

The State Department doesn't really have much influence on any administration Democrat or Republican. They're hostile to Republicans and with Dems just do as they're told and since the position of national security advisor has existed every Prez has trusted been closer to his national security advisor then his secretary of state.

Is this supposed to be relevent somehow? You have an Office of Anti-Semitism because Jews think that everyone should put the interests of Jews First, and political gentiles agree, including you. Your first post opposing the matter was because you don't think this Office is "Good for the Jews."

Yes, a bigger problem than Jews is gentiles who feel the need to think in terms of "What is Good for the Jews." These people are Enablers.

otto_von_bismarck
10-22-2004, 06:59 AM
Yes, that is why it has been obvious to many people that you deny reality because it makes you uncomfortable.

If I was like that I would resort to hysterical name calling like whoever the jewish girl was on LF who said you abused small animals as a child.

No one here uses Bobby Fischer as a source. Weak of you.

Nonetheless hes an example of a jew who buys into jewish conspiracy theories( yes I know you don't believe in a jewish conspiracy but you think they act in that manner subconsciously like a kind of political ant colony).

Let me finish that for you correctly. Achieving the necessary political power to advance their own perceived ethnic interests, which are not the same as European gentile interests no matter how many Jewish propagandaists try to make that out to be.

Lets look at some anti white policies. Affirmitive action and mass immigration are not in the rational interest of jews( now I will state once again that plenty have a foolish idealistic streak, the younger generation of jewish men tend to be less afflicted). Affirmitive action law classifies jews as "white"( and asians too essentially). Muslims hate them more then anyone, wetbacks don't like them and they'll certainly be treated no better then any other white people in the Republic of Aztlan.

It's kookery when you refuse to believe the word of Jews themselves because you would rather believe that their views are secretly close to your own. As a matter of fact, your view actually makes them look worse. I believe they are just advancing what they think to be their own interests. Under your claim, they are lying whores...and you excuse this and accept them. That is weak.

Your excuses are especially weak considering that Jews themselves own a lot of the press.

Everyone employed in the mainstream media is to a certain degree a lying whore. Of the two examples of jewish "neocons" actually owning a press( Frontpagemag, Jewish World Review) they are anti immigration and rather zealously opposed to affirmitive action. Most of the ownership of the big news media is a handful of megacorporations which are in turned owned mostly by gentiles.


So when the French are liberal, you hate them even if they aren't effecting you, but when the Jews are liberal and use their power to advance liberal causes in your own nation, you just think the poor dears are being "idealistic" and "foolish" and excuse them. Weak.

If I recall correctly you told me in the past you were a California green-left type if anyone should be saying "but for the grace of god go I" its you. I don't have any problem with having every sincere liberal lined up and shot, including all jewish ones. Media personalities who are conservative but forced to tow the line to keep their job are another matter.

This is incorrect because you have accepted Jewish paranoia as true. Jews use their political power to clamp down on anyone that sparks their paranoia. The JDL here in Alberta sued a guy for mentioning in an article that real estate here is largely controlled by Jews.

Once you make those kind of hate speech laws you have in Canada if anyone breaks said laws in front of a mass audience there will always be someone in the "offended" minority group( with rare exceptions, you could probably get away with dissing blacks or hispanics in a scientific magazine because there will be all but two of them who read it) who will want to use those laws to press charges.

Neither of us live in Eastern Canada. You do not even live in Canada, which is why I think your "frog"-bashing and then using Canadian politics as an excuse for it is pathetic.

Not on a thread ABOUT Canada and "linguistic minorities". Frog bashing is very relevant.


Is this supposed to be relevent somehow? You have an Office of Anti-Semitism because Jews think that everyone should put the interests of Jews First, and political gentiles agree, including you. Your first post opposing the matter was because you don't think this Office is "Good for the Jews."

Thats one of the reasons. I oppose the office because A) I don't believe in offices of minority affairs B) I don't generally think the foreign policy decisions of the United States should give much weight to the internal policies of other states, only when they are teaching kids to blow up the great satan. C) Its just a waste of money. D) While the office will not do anything meaningfull except add more employees to the Federal Governments tab( though preferable to the "meaningful alternative") it will provide a great deal of fodder to anti semitic conspiracy theories.


Yes, a bigger problem than Jews is gentiles who feel the need to think in terms of "What is Good for the Jews." These people are Enablers.

I hope you aren't taking my arguements personally.

ErikD
11-15-2004, 05:03 AM
Quebec frogs leech all your oil wealth and

"Frogs" or French people?

All of them, or just some of them?